tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post72996570599535302..comments2024-03-28T18:01:17.304-07:00Comments on Daytonian in Manhattan: The Lost C. P. Huntington Mansion -- 2 East 57th StreetTom Millerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13542224816886418433noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-59683493048400986642023-06-04T15:24:05.215-07:002023-06-04T15:24:05.215-07:00I give tours at The Huntington in San Marino of th...I give tours at The Huntington in San Marino of the European Art housed in the mansion. Loved your article but am so heartbroken that so much of their collection went to places other than the California property. Would love to find a list of what pieces they did own. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-8733170393047418852021-10-15T16:57:22.353-07:002021-10-15T16:57:22.353-07:00This is my ancestor's homeThis is my ancestor's homeDAVIDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01092586414660785500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-37464015135287998752016-01-02T23:14:57.928-08:002016-01-02T23:14:57.928-08:00This was so well done and fascinating! Thanks. I a...This was so well done and fascinating! Thanks. I am researching the homes in that area because my great grandmother Louise Demars was a French Governess who lived in a home on E 57th street in 1880. I am trying to decipher the 1880 census to figure out which family she worked for but I cannot be sure. Did you ever run across any information pertaining to the Robert Chadwick Hutchings family? City directory says Hutchings lived at 8 E 57th in 1880. They had 6 servants so I assumem considerable wealth; however I am not having any luck learning about my grandmother's employer except he was a Columbia educated attorney who had served as the Surrogate for NY until 1875. On the census his employment was "Ex Surrogate of NY" I am interested to know how he could appear retired at age 40!AWIVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03957404246801288347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-42230229382458172672013-12-20T21:38:02.282-08:002013-12-20T21:38:02.282-08:00Hi...... I joined your blog..... I am Michael........Hi...... I joined your blog..... I am Michael............we will find the Huntington plans together....Soon,,,M,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-13233065405762454332013-12-17T11:01:06.008-08:002013-12-17T11:01:06.008-08:00Description
This section is from the book "Am...Description<br />This section is from the book "American Plumbing Practice", by The Engineering Record. Also available from Amazon: Plumbing: A working manual of American plumbing practice.<br /><br />Plumbing In Mr. C. P. Huntington's Residence. Part 4<br /> <br />Figure 13 is a diagram of the iron tank and shows the different pipe connections, comprising six 1½-inch inlet holes I I, etc., for the water from the heater to enter 6 inches from the bottom, two 1-inch holes S S for the surface spray to enter 4 inches below the top, one 5-inch bottom outlet O for emptying and circulation, and three 3-inch overflow holes W W W for the water to waste through, the upper hole 5 feet 2 inches above the bottom, and the other 6 and 12 inches below it. the top of the tank and removing automatically and continuously any scum or floating objects from the surface of the water where a large part of the impurities and foreign particles collect. At the upper end of the bath two nozzles S S deliver a fine spray of hot, cold, or tempered water above the high-water line, and so directed as to cover the surface of the water and wash all the top part gently towards the opposite end, where it slowly overflows through the waste pipe. This is intended to prevent the accumulation of scum and constantly removes the dirtiest portion of the water. The nozzles S S are supplied by a 1-inch pipe T, which is carried along the outside of the tank wall just below the cellar ceiling and delivers from a 1½ - inch mixing chamber U, which is filled from the hot and cold pipes of the regular house system with check valves D D placed so as to prevent the possibility of water from main C backing up into main H, or vice versa.<br /><br />Figure 16 is a partial vertical cross-section through the side of the tank at one of the inlets I, and shows the details of lining and the method of connecting all Figure 17 shows the connections of one of the two duplicate bath boilers B B, Fig. 1 and Fig. 14. It is placed close to the tank wall W, and contains a 100-foot coil of 2-inch brass pipe which is connected with the supply and return steam pipes R and V, and receiving water from the bottom of the tank through pipe C returns it, warmer, through the three distributing pipes H H H. Fresh cold water is delivered by pipe K and by branch L to the companion boiler on the opposite side of the tank. X is a connection left for the swimming bath special filter pump. D is the Jewell filter (see Fig. 1), which is set adjacent to the boiler and which filters all the house supply. It is connected by pipes M and G to the principal cold, water main A, Fig. 1, and when in operation has valves N N open and valve O closed, but by reversing these valves the filter is cut out; valve O serving as a by-pass. Q is the crank for operating the rotating mechanism when the filter is washed, and the designation of the different valves is as follows: 1. Washout valve. 2. Wash valve. 3. Inlet valve. 4. Pure water valve. 5. Rewash valve. 6. Back-pressure valve. 7. Filling cap. 8 Overflow valve. 9. Tank inlet valve, 10. Regulating valve. To wash the filter, open valves 1 and 2, close all other valves and turn the crank on top of the filter. To filter, close all valves except 3 and 4; valve 5 should be opened only about two minutes after washing to allow a little water to filter in the sewer.<br /><br /> <br /><br />Continue to:<br /><br />prev: Plumbing In Mr. C. P. Huntington's Residence. Part 3 <br />Table of Contents <br />next: Some Plumbing Details In The Residence Of John J. Astor <br />Tags<br />plumbing practice, drainage, water supply, residence, piping, flushing, ventilation, joints, pressure, pump, gas<br /><br />Try to go to this link. You will really enjoy this...... M.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Read more: http://chestofbooks.com/home-improvement/construction/plumbing/American-Plumbing-Practice/Plumbing-In-Mr-C-P-Huntington-s-Residence-Part-4.html#ixzz2nlBDIN5DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-84215330343100216062013-12-17T09:39:14.567-08:002013-12-17T09:39:14.567-08:00Hi........ By accident I found a four part articl...Hi........ By accident I found a four part article on the plumbing in the c.p. huntington, house. It shows cut aways of the plunge bath rooms, including the window treatment. The tank was curved to follow the bend in the bay window on fifth ave. It also showed the support panels for the tank. The swimming bath room had a fireplace! It even shows the step like ladder as it descends in to the water. As you look at the front of the house, or better: use Hughson Hawley's rendition of the front facade, from an angle. You will see a balcony, no! a terrace fitting in to that corner of the fifth avenue library, and the white salon. It is drawn in with two women and Palm tree. Below that is another room belonging to the bathing complex. A massage room, a hot bath, a tepid bath etc. There is a view looking in the plunge room toward the fifth ave bay: it gives an idea as to what it would have looked like in the library above. I wish I knew how to send you the articles on the bathing complex. The curve was so close to the fifth avenue wall, I wonder if they were able to maintain all of this complex of rooms after the 1911 alterations. Please look for "some plumbing in the c.p. huntington house" on google.... also you will find the floor plans of the complete astor mansion. Good luck. M.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-30369926928427314572013-12-15T02:46:08.996-08:002013-12-15T02:46:08.996-08:00The blueprints of the plumbing definitely show the...The blueprints of the plumbing definitely show the swimming pool in the oval wing. Perhaps the conservatory sat above the plunge in the lower level. Very interesting information. Thanks!Tom Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13542224816886418433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-56590698923001542732013-12-14T19:28:32.776-08:002013-12-14T19:28:32.776-08:00..the plunge bath was actually under the library w.....the plunge bath was actually under the library where the bay window was. the window bay as well as this very delicate massive and yet lacey fence had to be removed in 1911 when 5th ave. was widened. there is a reference to a conservatory in the building documents,, at Syracuse University.. the college holds a great deal of huntington paper. c.p. huntingtons papers are lodged there. IF there are blueprints, or a floor plan. A Good place to look is the Hispanic Society in manhatten n.y.c. It is only a guess,, the scale of the house was wonderful. Confusing. A guest might have come up the great stair to the front door. Likely,, a stain glass double door for an often vestibule idea. straight ahead were three openings in to a three story cortile. To the right and left of the entrance door were reception rooms, on the left, certainly. on the right perhaps a similar space for men to be received. reception rooms were asmall space ,,, relatively ! where a guest could wait, and ladies could put everything back in to place. further on the right was the white salon, that is what the room is referred to today..... please see the new book. "the art of wealth etc"....Shelley M. Bennett... a great hall ran east to west .. from the white salon east to the dining room. look at the front of the house, on either side of the main arch are windows out of scale. just as lovingly carved and decorated as the rest of the facade. the reception rooms? yes i think so,, but i wonder if there was not at least one secondary staircase to the second floor. the white salon has an alcove that perhaps might fit.. if anyone has been to the Breakers in new port ri..... then you will know this technique... as a visitor,, one goes up on these staircases,,,, grand,, but not the grand staircase, no. Hunt and post worked together. there was a very grand and hauntingly beatiful staircase a large half circle,,,,, from street level to the third floor. three stain glass windows provided light and privacy from top to bottom. as one would ascend the steps one would arrive on the second floor with a breathtaking view down ,, out ,, and up to this vault crowned with a stain glass skylight. the tower next to and east of the dining room has a staircase and an elevator in the center of service stairs? the east room is difficult to read. The colors in the house must have been stunning to a guest,,, easy to live with as well. black and white photographs do nothing kind for color. the east room must have had some kind of winter garden ,,, perhaps in the southern apse of the room.? but certainly facing south... a conservatory/winter garden is referred to in the huntington menue of rooms,,, referred to. over the plunge bath on the ground floor/basement... a turkish ....no!!! a roman bath. a beautiful library of the original bay window on fifth ave.... a look at the fireplace..Karl Bitter did some wonderful work in this house. here at the library are two muscular giants holding the mantle above them........................................ the point is... the house was stunning and the rooms large but not so large that one would feel as if they were in the lobby of a 1927 movie palace. this house has been put down largely because of the people that lived in the home. i think so. designed to be admired from an angle..... the so called gaping mouth richardsonian arch,,, appears to be a normal arch when viewed on an angle. it seems that the stone facing was granite. We know what comes after a road is widened. it seems to me that the family lived in their houses and survived the chaos of the whitney's vanderbilts and poor mrs oelrichs accross the street. ........... I will not give up on finding a working floor plan.... where did i read the kitchen on the fourth floor? but then i found a picture take from a high floor of the st regis hotel.... one looks down and there are two floors of normal windows ,,Above the skylight.. the whitney house and the vanderbilt house are still there.... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-91794835525499107832013-12-04T19:57:34.276-08:002013-12-04T19:57:34.276-08:00I found the floor plans which were somewhat intere...I found the floor plans which were somewhat interesting; but they were the plumber's plans so even though the walls were there and the rooms discernible, all the plumbing was too distracting. Obviously, if those exist so do the builder's plans.Tom Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13542224816886418433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-55466467156227547582013-12-03T20:53:59.902-08:002013-12-03T20:53:59.902-08:00I have yet to see a floorplan of this. Not even &q...I have yet to see a floorplan of this. Not even "The Great Houses of New York" book had floorplans but man its interior was breath taking, the exterior was definitely not.chauncy primmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17099894744964516223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-65782451507319225902013-12-03T17:32:09.026-08:002013-12-03T17:32:09.026-08:00Tom, this was a wonderful article that again moved...Tom, this was a wonderful article that again moved me. I just finished reading a biography on Hetty Green and her hatred and rivalry of C.P. Huntington was very interesting. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-56022626438790773322013-12-03T16:37:49.379-08:002013-12-03T16:37:49.379-08:00I noticed that too; but I think if you look closel...I noticed that too; but I think if you look closely the entrance is actually still there, beyond the wall. The photograph is deceiving; I think.Tom Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13542224816886418433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-4074898251542195522013-12-03T15:50:19.698-08:002013-12-03T15:50:19.698-08:00Interesting house. I noticed in the last picture ...Interesting house. I noticed in the last picture that not only is the bay window on 5th Avenue gone, but so is the main entrance on the side street. The entrance steps look to be gone. I wonder how one got into the house?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-73248362972692830862013-12-03T15:12:47.061-08:002013-12-03T15:12:47.061-08:00Fantastic photos of a lost era. What an exclusive ...Fantastic photos of a lost era. What an exclusive neighborhood at 5th and 57th. Simply stunning in the shear amount of residential opulence that has vanished from mid-town, but which is returning in the form of new residential highrises now going up on 57th street. NYarchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-61152048575767740152013-12-03T03:45:46.391-08:002013-12-03T03:45:46.391-08:00I could proof-read my own writing 30 times and som...I could proof-read my own writing 30 times and something stupid like that will manage to get through! Thanks! All fixedTom Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13542224816886418433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-33015210551480010472013-12-03T03:13:10.983-08:002013-12-03T03:13:10.983-08:00Yet another superb article, Daytonian. But "...Yet another superb article, Daytonian. But "2 EAST 57th Street", as in your text.Pax Britannicanoreply@blogger.com