tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post8346233455116936415..comments2024-03-28T05:18:25.792-07:00Comments on Daytonian in Manhattan: The J. Harper Poor Mansion -- No. 33 East 69th StreetTom Millerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13542224816886418433noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-62494491922985587392020-01-15T10:05:42.845-08:002020-01-15T10:05:42.845-08:00Oh why, why, why? Re-read this again today after a...Oh why, why, why? Re-read this again today after a few years and just saw the link posted from April 2016. Why? How could anyone think they were making an improvement with that horrible renovation of the interior courtyard.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-56612147810825918692016-04-21T09:10:01.705-07:002016-04-21T09:10:01.705-07:00The following link shows hints of a drastically al...The following link shows hints of a drastically altered stair hall (cannot be called a patio anymore):<br /><br />http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/singer-diahann-carroll-entertaining-at-45th-birthday-party-news-photo/50721313Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03101865230001606259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-770530672198928172016-02-27T06:51:45.175-08:002016-02-27T06:51:45.175-08:00The renovations gave the interiors a half-hearted ...The renovations gave the interiors a half-hearted typical 60s flavor, nothing chaetely Louis XVI about them. Think Louie.<br />The Down East Dilettantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13950254669198151850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-74694428987861109772016-02-27T06:50:18.473-08:002016-02-27T06:50:18.473-08:00Magnuspetrie, fancy running into you here. I will...Magnuspetrie, fancy running into you here. I will give you the French styling of the balconies, but the facade remains resoutely Renaissance (if I weren't so lazy, I'd even look up which palace it echoes). To answer your other question, about the interiors surviving, the answer is no. The Kennedy Library has photos of the after party for Kennedy, and there are traces of coffered ceiling beaams, some extraordinary curtains clearly left by a previous owner, and a 1960's wanna be French stair where the courtyard was. Very sad.<br />The Down East Dilettantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13950254669198151850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-59077877777688048192016-02-27T06:45:40.862-08:002016-02-27T06:45:40.862-08:00Haha---Thanks for the reply, which just caught up ...Haha---Thanks for the reply, which just caught up with me. No wonder the landmarks Commsion is struggling these days. The Poor house's exterior details have nothing to with either France, or neo-classicism <br />The Down East Dilettantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13950254669198151850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-33415767588800125612016-01-27T08:40:12.645-08:002016-01-27T08:40:12.645-08:00Thank you Tom. What a fascinating and unusual solu...Thank you Tom. What a fascinating and unusual solution to the dark interior of most New York townhouses. I wonder how much of the interior details remain, or if most was lost in the attempt to give the place more of a chaste, Louis XVI flavor.Magnuspetriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12625586892328226122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-44302118659158635142016-01-27T06:27:57.275-08:002016-01-27T06:27:57.275-08:00Read this again today and spotted all the great ch...Read this again today and spotted all the great changes. I too would love to know if that wonderful interior courtyard survived. A beautiful interior and an amazing solution to the shotgun layout of most townhouses. NYarchAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09455260852354404149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-77931482503118110192016-01-27T05:57:58.909-08:002016-01-27T05:57:58.909-08:00You prompted a near re-write! Check out the addit...You prompted a near re-write! Check out the additional information and photos. Thanks for your continued support, by the way!Tom Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13542224816886418433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-62423775240212299372016-01-27T04:59:27.926-08:002016-01-27T04:59:27.926-08:00Wonderful post. I too start each day with Daytonia...Wonderful post. I too start each day with Daytonian.<br />Do you have any sense of the interior layout of the house? The photograph in American Architect and Architecure hints at a very different layout from conventional townhouses of the era. It is possible that the skylight was merely a glass ceiling lit from above and that the photograph depots the foyer and stair hall. It would be interesting to know. As to the style, I think both Landmarks and DED are correct: the original style is, to my mind, Italian Renaissance. The redesign of the windows and balconies in the subsequent alteration, however changed the style to a more conventional French Neo-classic. It would also be interesting to learn if the house lost that amazing two story space at the same time.Magnuspetriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12625586892328226122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-27594788807355931932016-01-26T09:53:03.564-08:002016-01-26T09:53:03.564-08:00I think the second floor balconies are the Juliett...I think the second floor balconies are the Juliette balconies. Juliette balconies are not 'real' balconies, but a railing in front of a floor length window. Very popular in Paris. The second floor are the Juliettes and the third floor are balconies. I think. I don't have my architectural reference book handy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-58482451068908682512016-01-26T09:43:26.757-08:002016-01-26T09:43:26.757-08:00I struggled with the elements, then deferred to th...I struggled with the elements, then deferred to the Landmarks Preservation Commission's French Neo-Classic call. Tom Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13542224816886418433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-69563167700617284802016-01-26T08:44:26.591-08:002016-01-26T08:44:26.591-08:00Fascinating post, as always, thank-you you. Consi...Fascinating post, as always, thank-you you. Consistently one of my first morning reads. I must respectfully suggest, however, that the original design of this house is Italian Renaissance, not French.The Down East Dilettantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13950254669198151850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-27304040048742933022016-01-26T06:57:37.866-08:002016-01-26T06:57:37.866-08:00Thank you for this post. If walls could talk....Thank you for this post. If walls could talk....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com