tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post3949989968690798305..comments2024-03-28T16:58:09.783-07:00Comments on Daytonian in Manhattan: The Lost George Crocker Mansion - No. 1 East 64th StreetTom Millerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13542224816886418433noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-7392082245110539952014-05-09T16:17:31.312-07:002014-05-09T16:17:31.312-07:00the original design for 834 called for a midblock ...the original design for 834 called for a midblock 120 foot wide structure with mostly full floor apartments, some half floors and a few duplexes on the first floor floors, and also on the setback floors.When she sold the apartment house was so advanced(they were bricking the first 2-3 floors,and all the steelwork was in place) that Candela couldn't do major changes,and since we are talking about 1930, with the Depression and all, he couldnt afford it either.So he added a new wing,or line , whoch consisted of stacked duplexes,each with 60 foot frontage.He also "took" one or two rooms from the backs of the adjoining larger units(ones with much bigger frontage) in the original design..<br />She then lived there for many many years.<br />And yes part of the consideration was an apartment in the building, quite a common practice back then.Mansion/townhouse owners wanted to stay not only in the same neighbbourhood, they wanted to stay in the same place,(address) and the developers offered them all sorts of deals to convince them to sell their "outdated" houses.<br />You have to remember back in the 20s individual townhouses and mansions were considered obsolete,inadequate,expensive to maintain...if it wasnt for the Depression we would have much fewer historic houses in NY..especially considering the crazy rate of construction in the 20s...in another 5-10 years they would have been all demolished..Lucianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09385966440427908887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-73294798933529748642014-03-03T17:43:25.442-08:002014-03-03T17:43:25.442-08:00The house was exquisite.
George Crocker was a sti...The house was exquisite.<br /><br />George Crocker was a stinker in life........and beyond!<br /><br />***A TENNESSEE FANnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-17654001622296723392014-03-03T08:40:19.228-08:002014-03-03T08:40:19.228-08:00glad to see interior shots. the floorplan is proba...glad to see interior shots. the floorplan is probably predictable but the interiors, i always wanted to seechauncy primmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17099894744964516223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-56203616688853144292014-03-03T07:47:33.827-08:002014-03-03T07:47:33.827-08:00Too bad she sold. Considering the slender lot left...Too bad she sold. Considering the slender lot left over after the Candela apartment was built, the structure would probably have survived the years as a small townhouse conversion or slipped into institutional use. Nice movement and undulation occurring on the stone facade.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7502312000087595701.post-75776745611547801942014-03-03T05:48:27.462-08:002014-03-03T05:48:27.462-08:00I believe that Mrs. Herman Oelrichs (pronounced, I...I believe that Mrs. Herman Oelrichs (pronounced, I am told, "Ulricks") was the daughter of Comstock Lode Millionaire, Jmaes G. Fair. her younger sister, Virginia, was the first wife of W.K. Vanderbilt, Jr.<br /><br />There is a deorating note here that you often see in similar houses of this vintage: A desk or large rectangular table placed in the center of a room, with two single chairs facing outward, placed at angles at the corners of the table, with other chairs scattered around. None of it seems arranged for easy conversation.<br /><br />I remember reading that 834 Fifth Avenue was designed before Mrs. Ali decided to sell her house, and the origional plan for the building was substantially different. It was quickly redrawn when the builders reached an agreement with Mrs. Ali and obtained the coveted corner property. I believe that part of consideration for the sale was an apartment at 834 for Mrs. AliMagnuspetriehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12625586892328226122noreply@blogger.com